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IXFR versions journaling without using file

by Jeremy C. Reed

I have static zones that are regenerated continually (every few seconds) with a knotc zone-reload _zonename_ after. Doing dig queries using ixfr= always used AXFR until I enabled per-zone zonefile-load: difference We saw logs periodically like: warning: [foo.bar.example.com.] failed to update zone file (operation not permitted) This is because the files created are a different user than the knotd. We are not doing automated signing nor dynamic updates. This is with Knot 3.2.6. 1) Why would it try writing to the source zone file? Anyways, we got rid of that warning with zonefile-sync: -1 And the time to between the zone-reload and serving the new zone data improved too. I noticed with experimenting with journal-db-max-size and journal-max-size the data.mdb was around 80% larger than the defined size. As I removed and added records, the number of differences reduced and I couldn't do IXFRs for many versions behind which I assume is default journal-max-depth: 20. I believe this means the journaling was dropping versions and does not require keeping at least 20 versions (not a "minimum". I am fine with that. I was able to trigger error like error: [foo.bar.example.com.] zone event 'load' failed (not enough space provided) which I assume was due to journaling even when dropping old versions still doesn't have enough space for most recent changes. We are experimenting with increasing journal-max-size to work around this. It appears that the differences are fully handled in memory first before updating to the journal file. I also see the journal file have large jump in file size and never small increments. 2) Since I have no purpose to reuse a journal file for system restart or recovery -- since I am building new zone files frequently, is there any way to not use a journal file and just have knotd do this all in memory? That way it is never writing to the journal every few seconds while I continue to offer IXFR out support? If not, maybe I will use memory file system for the journal files. By the way, this is for around ten zones varying from around 1000 records to over 8 million records for the larger zones, They are changing from a few records every few seconds to maybe a thousand records every 30 seconds. Thanks

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IXFR response has interspersed IXFR and OPT records and more

by Jeremy C. Reed

I am testing IXFR for servers I did not install nor have easy access to. version.server. says it is 3.2.6. I know there are IXFR changes since then per the NEWS file and from git log. I don't see same behavior on my different version different systems but they are also configured differently. The knot.conf zones are not configured with "zonefile-load: difference" and the response effectively has the entire zone as if was AXFR and not the changes. If I pass the IXFR SOA SERIAL to latest it has no changes (answer has has the SOA only with same serial). I used dnspython to output the response from doing IXFR queries (IXFR question with SOA authoritative set with the serial in the query). I noticed the output abruptly stops when "dig" doesn't stop. So I used tcpdump many times to compare knot, named, and my other knot. I found an odd behavior in this knot 3.2.6 response which dig ignores and my dnspython fails. After the expect record it has 1) OPT record with the requestors pay load size (class 1232) and edns rcode and flags (all zeros ttl), then 00 rdlength and 00 rdata field. 2) then 28 bytes I don't understand such as: 40 11be dc80 0000 0101 fa00 0000 01 or 40 20be dc80 0000 0102 0300 0000 01 or 40 0fe1 6a81 0000 0102 0500 0000 00 or 12 8de1 6a81 0000 0100 9200 0000 00 3) then an IXFR record following other labels ... 0363 6f6d 00 three characters "com" and end of domain 00 fb IXFR record type 00 01 INternet class and then ends there, with NO ttl, rdlength, nor rdata. 4) followed by next label length, label ... etc with rrtype, class, ttl, rdlength, rdata and so on. This odd OPT, bytes I don't know, partial/broken IXFR record, may be repeated a few times. I assume these were interspersed where IXFR's SOA records should be. I couldn't find an RFC that suggested using interspersed OPT nor IXFR records. I find it odd that OPT record is in my ANSWER section. I find it odd that the IXFR record is incomplete. And I don't know what the other bytes are in-between. This recognizable to anyone? The IXFR works fine as seen with dig or when I use named as my secondary but I assume the named is ignoring the junk parts too.

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mod-onlinesign: extra DNSKEY causes double signatures

by Peter Thomassen

Hi, Consider a zonefile with @ DNSKEY 257 3 13 ZAtZvaK2/uVw+LG2AA12Dt/ZZ+YN0IF3pFwjfBp8Jd2DXjVU0cdxfpkY StUdbFu24Js6T5uROHo8lSG9rhgduw== and configuration zone: - domain: example.com storage: /config/ file: example.com.zone module: mod-onlinesign -- Like our community service? 💛 Please consider donating at https://desec.io/ deSEC e.V. Möckernstraße 74 10965 Berlin Germany Vorstandsvorsitz: Nils Wisiol Registergericht: AG Berlin (Charlottenburg) VR 37525

5 měsíců, 4 týdny

Dynamic update fails after zone creation via catalog

by Daniel Gröber

Hi Knots, I use catalog zones to sync the set of zones my (hidden)master and slaves handle. I'm trying to stop messing with zone files on my master, instead switching exclusively to nsupdate (along with Tony Finch's nsdiff). In my testing it seems updating the zone after adding it via a catalog is not possible: $ knotc zone-status dxld.at [dxld.at.] role: master | serial: - | catalog: dxld.catalog. | re-sign: +9D15h6m14s Yet the update fails: $ knsupdate -y $SECRET <<EOF > server ns0.dxld.at. > zone dxld.at. > add dxld.at. 3600 IN SOA ns0.dxld.at. hostmaster.dxld.at. 1 2m 5m 1w 5m > send update failed: SERVFAIL Nothing is logged with `logging: any: debug` except a "ACL, allowed, action update". As soon as I create the zone on the server with zone{-begin,-set,-commit} it starts working ofc. I guess this is just not supported, but is there a good reason? I would find it quite convenient to do all my DNS ops over port 53 without touching ssh ;-) Thanks, --Daniel

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Issue - trailing data

by Артём Палецкий

Hello! I have an issue. Knot is configured as a secondary server, and when receiving a zone, a "trailing data" error occurs, preventing the zone from being loaded from the primary server. ``` Jan 30 11:03:40 hostname knotd[5407]: info: [domain.com.] refresh, remote 50788646-db98-4caa-b26e-95b30a470796, address 1.2.3.4@53, failed (trailing data) ``` The same warning appears when using the `kdig` utility: ```bash kdig @1.2.3.4 domain.com AXFR > /tmp/domain.com ;; WARNING: malformed reply packet (trailing data) ;; WARNING: malformed reply packet (trailing data) ``` The issue occurs specifically with large zones. If the zone requires 2 messages to be received (e.g., `Received 32720 B (2 messages, 442 records)`), one warning appears. If it requires 3 messages (e.g., `Received 49083 B (3 messages, 878 records)`), two warnings appear. However, if I place this zone (`/tmp/domain.com`) into `/var/lib/knot` and then execute: ```bash knotc reload knotc zone-refresh domain.com ``` Knot successfully loads the zone. Unfortunately, due to confidentiality, I cannot share the contents of the zone. Additionally, I do not have precise information about the software installed on the primary server. However, if BIND is used as the secondary server, there are no issues. A regular `dig` command also does not return any errors. Is there any way to make Knot ignore the "trailing data" error and successfully load the zone? Thank you for your help!

6 měsíců, 1 týden

Knot DNS 3.4.4 release

by Daniel Salzman

Hello Knot DNS users, CZ.NIC has released Knot DNS 3.4.4! This is a bugfix version with some improvements. Changelog: https://gitlab.nic.cz/knot/knot-dns/-/releases/v3.4.4 Download: https://www.knot-dns.cz/download/ Documentation: https://www.knot-dns.cz/documentation/ Support: https://www.knot-dns.cz/support/ Regards, Daniel

6 měsíců, 2 týdny

knotc issue since 3.4.1

by Jean-Daniel Dupas

Hello, I have an issue with a behaviour change in knot 3.4.1. Before 3.4.1, trying to send a conf-abort command using knotc to knot when there was no pending transaction properly returned an error, but since 3.4.1, instead of receiving an error, the connection hangs, and failed after a timeout. Some digging shows that this is due to a change in commit 69328dd7799253978605f7dac29175945971e63f Instead of returning and error as it should, ctl_process skip the command processing when it does not expect a conf-abort command. Is this a bug, or is this behaviour intended ? Just to give you some context about my use case, I wrote a daemon that is using libknot to sync the dns configuration, and as knot does not supports multiple transaction, it has to make sure there is no dangling transaction before trying to apply changes (in case the daemon did crash while applying a previous change). Until 3.4.1, it did that by simply sending a conf-abort before starting the new transaction. Thanks

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HSM support

by Thomas Kuechenthal

Hi Guys, a happy new year to all of you! Due to policy reasons we need to make knot use a HSM in the future. Is anybody successfully using some cloud based HSM services like Google Cloud HSM for DNSSEC signing? Any information is helpful, thanks! BR Thomas

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Knot DNS 3.3.10 release

by Daniel Salzman

Hello Knot DNS users, CZ.NIC has released Knot DNS 3.3.10! This version backports some fixes and improvements from 3.4. Changelog: https://gitlab.nic.cz/knot/knot-dns/-/releases/v3.3.10 Download: https://www.knot-dns.cz/download/ Documentation: https://www.knot-dns.cz/documentation/ Support: https://www.knot-dns.cz/support/ Regards, Daniel

7 měsíců, 4 týdny

Change of default nsec3-salt-length

by Erwan David

Hello, My knot 3.4.3 gives me following notice : notice: config, policy 'rail_policy' depends on default nsec3-salt-length=8, since version 3.5 the default becomes 0 In order to avoid problems when .5 will arrive, I see 2 possibilities: * add an explicit nsec3-salt-length=8 to my policy * add an explicit nsec3-salt-length=0 to my policy and resign the zone. From https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec3-guidance-10.html#nam… I understand that 0 should be the new configuration, but what are the risks (considering eg. DNS caches) if I change the policy of the zone? I only have small zones, with very few dynamic changes, which I can delay for the time of the TTL if needed. -- Erwan David

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